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God Is Gay?

Excerpt from On the Meaning of Adam Lambert

by Juneau

In choosing a title for this essay, my intention is not to offend, but to stimulate thinking. I chose this title because it evokes a number of ideas for me, such as: If Creation is the manifestation of God, and homosexuals are part of Creation, then homosexuals are a manifestation of God. And, that humans throughout history and culture have tried to define God; well then, why not this one? Or that God is unknowable, fluid, evading our efforts to define and set boundaries around – just as Gayness defies our simple dichotomies about gender.

One of the women (whom I call “C.”) posting on the wowowow site is a fundamentalist Christian who believes homosexuality is a sin. She still loves Adam, but frequently mentions that she doesn’t agree with his “life style”. Our dialog evolved into a conversation about religious belief. As a fundamentalist, C. interprets the Bible literally as the sole and true word of God. My response:

Hi C., this is such a rich and interesting discussion to have… I think our world is full of things made by humans — writing, art, music, buildings — but inspired by something we call divine. This doesn’t mean the work is therefore perfect. It is all of necessity interpreted through the human mind, with all its flaws, prejudices and cultural baggage. I am convinced that the Bible is no more privileged in this regard than any other sacred work, be it the Koran, Buddhist sutras, or the Sistine Chapel.

What is so compelling and moving to me is that despite the differences in epoch and culture, people were reaching for the same thing — an experience of the sacredness of our human lives and yearning to connect with something transcendent in the universe. If we could all recognize this, we would stop arguing about which belief system is “the Truth” — they are all striving towards the same truth. There are many roads to that truth. You found yours through Jesus. I found mine through science and Judaism. Unfortunately, we get distracted and blinded by the incidental details along the way. Homosexuality is one of these distractions, in my view.

You ask why God created a man and a woman. You may also ask why God created homosexuals. As I think E. and Glorious mentioned in previous posts, homosexuality is not a willful choice that some people make in defiance of God. They are born that way… It’s like race. There can be no justification for discriminating on the basis of sexual orientation.

I sometimes think race, sexual orientation, ethnicity, economic status, nationalism, and other such divisive attributes of human society are a grand test of our ability to see through the smokescreens of prejudice and tribalism and hear the Cosmic call to Love.

Juneau writes about neuroscience, physics and whatever else attracts her peripatetic attention. She is co-author with Xena of On the Meaning of Adam Lambert, and co-hostess of this Salon.

39 Comments leave one →
  1. cimi permalink
    August 16, 2012 10:53 pm

    Hiya blogger-in-chief. I only have time for a short comment right now(will post more later) but, I just wanted to say that I read MOST of the article, not all. And I have to say, I am with you. I don’t agree that homosexuals should be discriminated against in any way
    shape or form. I’m just saying that God say’s it’s wrong. It’s not right. that is all.

    • August 17, 2012 8:47 pm

      You’re missing the point of that commentary. This is from a Christian scholar who thinks people are misreading what Leviticus says.What he’s arguing is that the Bible does NOT have God saying homosexuality is a sin. – J

      • rosemary permalink
        August 18, 2012 12:15 am

        Cimi, I admire your bravery in being outspoken about your love for Adam Lambert even though you believe God says homosexuality is a sin. My brother is a fundamentalist Christian and even though he’s at heart a sweetheart, I’m afraid he would lecture you about being so into someone who’s “lifestyle” he perceives as immoral. (He has certainly lectured me about Adam.) And you wouldn’t deserve that!
        I would love for my brother to read the Christian scholar’s article Juneau referred us to, but, sadly, he’s not too open to anything that might threaten
        his belief system.

      • cimi permalink
        January 10, 2013 12:49 am

        Blogger-in-chief…Lots of times christians get it wrong. Mostly when they are in the wrong–if that makes sense.

        • cimi permalink
          January 10, 2013 12:57 am

          And just to let those who criticize me for making late comments and I’m up all night doing it. It is only 10 p.m. here.

      • cimi permalink
        January 10, 2013 1:00 am

        Homosexuality is wrong. God never meant for his creation for this type of behaviour. why do you think there is such a stink about it?

      • clare permalink
        May 15, 2015 3:40 am

        He’s a misinformed chritian scholar

  2. cimi permalink
    August 19, 2012 2:31 am

    Well Rosmary, I don’t think that liking a person has anything to do with their sexual orientation. I like Adam whether or not I agree with his belief system or not. I just like him. To me it doesn’t have anything to do with him being gay. He just is. A very nice, interesting, enigmatic, outstanding, albeit young still (and has a lot to learn), but he is perhaps the most interesting human i’ve known to date. So yeah, i like him. Him being gay doesn’t change that for me. I don’t agree with the gay thing and yes, I am outspoken with that stance. I will continue to be.

  3. rosemary permalink
    August 19, 2012 3:27 pm

    So sorry Cimi, I didn’t mean at all to offend. In my roundabout way, I was actually trying to compliment you! As I reread my earlier note, I can see why you misunderstood me. I poorly expressed what I was trying to say.
    What I was trying to say is that I admire you because you are obviously NOT like my fundamentalist brother. And you’re not afraid to be outspoken. Though my brother’s not
    mean to gay people, he thinks that I and other fans are doing something wrong because we support Adam’s “lifestyle” by being so into him–that we’re encouraging homosexuality through our behaviour. My brother has lectured me about this and I was just saying that I think he would be even more motivated to lecture you since you have similar beliefs to his about God/the Bible saying homosexuality is wrong.
    Also, I want to make it clear that I respect your religious beliefs (and my brother’s) about homosexuality. I don’t agree with those beliefs, but I respect them. What I get from my brother through his lecturing (and what pushes my buttons) is that he does not respect MY beliefs.
    Hope this has cleared things up.
    BTW I agree with everything you”ve said about Adam, especially the “interesting” part. I think he’s fascinating and thought-provoking besides sexy and super-talented.

  4. rosemary permalink
    August 19, 2012 3:42 pm

    So now I’m thinking maybe I misinterpreted your note, Cimi, and that you weren’t offended after all- weren’t defending yourself, just explaining about your liking Adam. (Someone else here just read your note.) Sometimes the tone of written words without the person in front of you can be misinterpreted. So sorry if I confused you in my last note by being confused myself! O dear, think I’m going to give up on this and just go put on TRESPASSING!

  5. cimi permalink
    October 3, 2012 2:22 am

    That’s ok Rosemary, I completely understand. I come here very infrequently, so, I’m not really up on the conversation. I have an aspergers kid that I home school so don’t have too much time to chat online. I DO love and am infatuated with Adam . I do think Homosexuality is wrong. I’m sure the gals here in this chat hate me for it but….I have to stand up for what I believe in.

    • October 19, 2012 9:19 pm

      Look up the Descent of Inanna and her priests. This is about us women too. How can you say you love someone and then pinpoint/dissect this aspect of their energy force as “wrong”? Love challenges our preconceptions and crosses over all boundaries. You seem to have a martyr complex there, “oh you will hate me but I have to stand up for what I believe in”. How can someone’s vortex on top of the head, which spins the other way at birth, be “wrong”? There can only be a “wrong” way of seeing it, which has been happening in history for far too long. Adam is calling for love, pure love and true, which puts things in their rightful place. And gay means “(as) good as you” meaning equality. It means men and women are equal, and we are not just pieces of meat – we have an inner reality. The physical is just a small part of who we truly are. But it is real and not just an “empty shell” you can order around. It is your vessel expressing the “you” from within.

      • clare permalink
        May 15, 2015 3:45 am

        the same way I can love my kids but disagree with them

  6. cimi permalink
    December 16, 2012 2:56 am

    We have never been “just pieces of meat–” I don’t know what you’re getting at there. And I didn’t think I “dissected” Adam. I like him, he’s uber interesting to me (and many apparently). And yes, I do believe in right and wrong. black/white. I believe in standards. I believe in absolute truth-no wavering. Sexuality isn’t just about the physical, it’s about the whole person. I believe sexuality involves the spiritual as well. God is Spirit and we are spirit as well. If you believe in Chirst you have Him living on the inside of you, so you have His spirit along with your own. This may not make sense, but I’m trying:)

  7. cimi permalink
    March 23, 2013 2:07 am

    I love Adam. I am infatuated with everything that is Adam. It’s been 4 yrs. now? I don’t know. But whenever I watch an interview with him I still smile. I think the smile is because he is just so darned interesting. I don’t think we have gotten this from most celebraties, so perhaps this is why we put him on a pedastool. He is just so different. It’s 2013. I still am infatuated with him. I don’t apologize for that. I also don’t apologize for my beliefs of what I think is right and wrong. I do apologize to all of you here who aren’t understanding this though. And i would hope that you appreciate my beliefs and not hold them against me. Love all of you.

  8. cimi permalink
    May 1, 2013 3:41 am

    I can’t find anyone to share my wonder. my grief and nostalgia and awe of this man. i feel lost. I think he is just so awesome. tough life.

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